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		<title>By: Carla</title>
		<link>http://www.kavoir.com/2009/01/what-are-the-chinese-or-mandarin-web-safe-fonts.html/comment-page-1#comment-15991</link>
		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi yes I am lokking to just creat a personal message with a Chinese font but in English...However I am scared to download to my computer. How do I know if its really safe? I cant afford another computer &amp; I gotten a virus on my computer before...by a house guest who pulled up some not so good sites if-you-know-what-I-mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi yes I am lokking to just creat a personal message with a Chinese font but in English&#8230;However I am scared to download to my computer. How do I know if its really safe? I cant afford another computer &amp; I gotten a virus on my computer before&#8230;by a house guest who pulled up some not so good sites if-you-know-what-I-mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 03:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank - just what I was looking for</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank &#8211; just what I was looking for</p>
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		<title>By: samueljesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>samueljesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correctly commented by blah. These are Windows safe Chinese fonts.

I have just released a Wordpress plugin called WP SinoType experimenting with Chinese web fonts. The plugin focuses on selected a Mac Chinese font, English chinese font, and English font for Headings and Body HTML tags.

The plugin is not a flawless solution, more a means to experiment with Chinese web fonts to try and find better solutions and more options for designers.

If anyone is interested in the plugin you can check it out at
http://graficareal.net/blog/wordpress-sinotype-websafe-chinese-plugin/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correctly commented by blah. These are Windows safe Chinese fonts.</p>
<p>I have just released a WordPress plugin called WP SinoType experimenting with Chinese web fonts. The plugin focuses on selected a Mac Chinese font, English chinese font, and English font for Headings and Body HTML tags.</p>
<p>The plugin is not a flawless solution, more a means to experiment with Chinese web fonts to try and find better solutions and more options for designers.</p>
<p>If anyone is interested in the plugin you can check it out at<br />
<a href="http://graficareal.net/blog/wordpress-sinotype-websafe-chinese-plugin/" rel="nofollow">http://graficareal.net/blog/wordpress-sinotype-websafe-chinese-plugin/</a></p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are not web-safe fonts.  These are Windows specific fonts, and won&#039;t necessarily play well with Mac or Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are not web-safe fonts.  These are Windows specific fonts, and won&#8217;t necessarily play well with Mac or Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Yang Yang ! 
I am an italian web-designer, living in Italy and dreaming !
I am studying chinese and I love China so much, even if I&#039;ve never visited it yet :(

I just created a social network called AMICINA for chinese people as you and foreigner (as me) who love China. Search for it, ok?

I want to keep in touch with you, it seems we&#039;ve a lot in common and .. I am not good at coding ! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Yang Yang !<br />
I am an italian web-designer, living in Italy and dreaming !<br />
I am studying chinese and I love China so much, even if I&#8217;ve never visited it yet :(</p>
<p>I just created a social network called AMICINA for chinese people as you and foreigner (as me) who love China. Search for it, ok?</p>
<p>I want to keep in touch with you, it seems we&#8217;ve a lot in common and .. I am not good at coding ! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Micky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 01:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree. If you have a mix Chinese and English site, and you specify font family arial, simsun or 微软雅黑, in IE the first font specify will be used to render both the Chinese and English words . So the English words may look ugly in simsun.. Or Chinese words get rendered other than simsun, which causes alignment issues etc.

Whereas for FF, it is ok as both will display accordingly to the right font.

Unless there&#039;s a font both English and Chinese is nice ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree. If you have a mix Chinese and English site, and you specify font family arial, simsun or 微软雅黑, in IE the first font specify will be used to render both the Chinese and English words . So the English words may look ugly in simsun.. Or Chinese words get rendered other than simsun, which causes alignment issues etc.</p>
<p>Whereas for FF, it is ok as both will display accordingly to the right font.</p>
<p>Unless there&#8217;s a font both English and Chinese is nice &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Article.
I am not chinese but have been tasked with the development of a website with a predominantly chinese audience.
I am currently looking at typography options and I believe that the major issue with embedding chinese fonts using the best latest techniques are hindered due to the font-size:

I am currently looking into how one might create a subset of a font and embed only the fonts used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Article.<br />
I am not chinese but have been tasked with the development of a website with a predominantly chinese audience.<br />
I am currently looking at typography options and I believe that the major issue with embedding chinese fonts using the best latest techniques are hindered due to the font-size:</p>
<p>I am currently looking into how one might create a subset of a font and embed only the fonts used.</p>
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		<title>By: Chinese language tips for web design &#171; Orangutangy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chinese language tips for web design &#171; Orangutangy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 22:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] several months, this is coming up again as we define our style guide. I found a new article which describes and provides screen-shots for 5 common mandarin fonts. He lists in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] several months, this is coming up again as we define our style guide. I found a new article which describes and provides screen-shots for 5 common mandarin fonts. He lists in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PHIL "DA WONG" STOKES</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHIL "DA WONG" STOKES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are a Chinese American nonprofit coalition specializing in end of life care for Chinese. our revamped website will include Traditional, Simplified, and English pages. Since our webmaster (me) does not speak Chinese (linguistically deprived), our process is to write the pages in English, have them translated into traditional Chinese and then convert them to Simplified. Our translators work on PCs. I use a mac. Now ....
What traditional Chinese font(s) can our translators use that will (1) maintain formatting and look just as good on a Mac? (2) What mac font should be installed to handle this? (3) What simplified Chinese font(s) are best for the conversion? I hear Simsun ttf is the best. (4) Is the traditional-to-simplified conversion process really a one-click deal? The website theme I&#039;m using is unicode compliant. Did a month in China two years ago. What wonderful memories!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are a Chinese American nonprofit coalition specializing in end of life care for Chinese. our revamped website will include Traditional, Simplified, and English pages. Since our webmaster (me) does not speak Chinese (linguistically deprived), our process is to write the pages in English, have them translated into traditional Chinese and then convert them to Simplified. Our translators work on PCs. I use a mac. Now &#8230;.<br />
What traditional Chinese font(s) can our translators use that will (1) maintain formatting and look just as good on a Mac? (2) What mac font should be installed to handle this? (3) What simplified Chinese font(s) are best for the conversion? I hear Simsun ttf is the best. (4) Is the traditional-to-simplified conversion process really a one-click deal? The website theme I&#8217;m using is unicode compliant. Did a month in China two years ago. What wonderful memories!</p>
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		<title>By: duc</title>
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		<dc:creator>duc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Ming Zhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ming Zhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice article. Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice article. Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: tobi</title>
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		<dc:creator>tobi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guess you&#039;re mising the &quot;&quot; around the chinese font name.. i have no trubles at all in IE..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guess you&#8217;re mising the &#8220;&#8221; around the chinese font name.. i have no trubles at all in IE..</p>
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		<title>By: Tobi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 00:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for your post! i was searching all night to find a good simplified chinese font-stack.
but maybe there&#039;s one more you can help me with.. i aswell need a stack for traditional chinese and so far stick with &quot;Li Sung&quot; but thats close to unreadable. besides that i have no clue of chinese :)

would appreciate if you can give me a hint.

thanks,

tobi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your post! i was searching all night to find a good simplified chinese font-stack.<br />
but maybe there&#8217;s one more you can help me with.. i aswell need a stack for traditional chinese and so far stick with &#8220;Li Sung&#8221; but thats close to unreadable. besides that i have no clue of chinese :)</p>
<p>would appreciate if you can give me a hint.</p>
<p>thanks,</p>
<p>tobi.</p>
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		<title>By: Yang Yang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yang Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, tried a few combinations and this seems to be working in FF:

.class p {
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 微软雅黑;
}

But it&#039;s not working in IE. As far as I know, this doesn&#039;t seem possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, tried a few combinations and this seems to be working in FF:</p>
<p>.class p {<br />
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 微软雅黑;<br />
}</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not working in IE. As far as I know, this doesn&#8217;t seem possible.</p>
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		<title>By: mache</title>
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		<dc:creator>mache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again Yang Yang. And I have one more question :)
do you know what if it works to set a western style of fonts and a chinese one for one element. 
I mean, for example:
.class p{
font-family: 微软雅黑;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica;
font-size: 16px;
font-weight: 900;
text-transform: uppercase;
}
So when chinese characters come it looks with that family, and when western characters come out they do it on Arial.

?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again Yang Yang. And I have one more question :)<br />
do you know what if it works to set a western style of fonts and a chinese one for one element.<br />
I mean, for example:<br />
.class p{<br />
font-family: 微软雅黑;<br />
font-family: Arial, Helvetica;<br />
font-size: 16px;<br />
font-weight: 900;<br />
text-transform: uppercase;<br />
}<br />
So when chinese characters come it looks with that family, and when western characters come out they do it on Arial.</p>
<p>?</p>
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